On Secular Education

On Secular Education The education of children for God is the most important business done on earth It is the one business for which the earth exists To it all politics all war all literature all money making ought to

  • Title: On Secular Education
  • Author: Robert Lewis Dabney Douglas Wilson
  • ISBN: 9781885767196
  • Page: 291
  • Format: Paperback
  • The education of children for God is the most important business done on earth It is the one business for which the earth exists To it all politics, all war, all literature, all money making, ought to be subordinated and every parent especially ought to feel, every hour of the day, that, next to making his own calling and election sure, this is the end for which he is The education of children for God is the most important business done on earth It is the one business for which the earth exists To it all politics, all war, all literature, all money making, ought to be subordinated and every parent especially ought to feel, every hour of the day, that, next to making his own calling and election sure, this is the end for which he is kept alive by God this is his task on earth R.L Dabney

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    1. Robert Lewis Dabney Douglas Wilson

      Robert Lewis Dabney March 5, 1820 January 3, 1898 was an American Christian theologian, a Southern Presbyterian pastor, and Confederate Army chaplain He was also chief of staff and biographer to Stonewall Jackson His biography of Jackson remains in print today.Dabney studied at Hampden Sydney College and the University of Virginia M.A 1842 , and graduated from Union Theological Seminary in 1846.He was then a missionary in Louisa County, Virginia, from 1846 to 1847 and pastor at Tinkling Spring, Virginia from 1847 to 1853, being also head master of a classical school for a portion of this time From 1853 to 1859 he was professor of ecclesiastical history and polity and from 1859 to 1869 adjunct professor of systematic theology in Union Theological Seminary, where he later became full professor of systematics In 1883, he was appointed professor of mental and moral philosophy in the University of Texas.By 1894 failing health compelled him to retire from active life, although he still lectured occasionally He was co pastor, with his brother in law B M Smith, of the Hampden Sydney College Church 1858 to 1874, also serving Hampden Sydney College in a professorial capacity on occasions of vacancies in its faculty Dabney, whose wife was a first cousin to Stonewall Jackson s wife, participated in the Civil War during the summer of 1861 he was chaplain of the 18th Virginia regiment in the Confederate army, and in the following year was chief of staff to Jackson during the Valley Campaign and the Seven Days Battles.After the Civil War Dabney spoke widely on Jackson and the Confederacy He continued to hold racial views typical in the South before the Civil War, and his continued support of slavery in speeches and a book published after the war and his strong loyalty to the Confederacy until the 1890s made him a visible figure in the post war South Hettle, 2003.While at the University of Texas he practically founded and maintained the Austin School of Theology which later became Austin Presbyterian Theological Seminary , and in 1870 was Moderator of the General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church in the United States.Major worksMemoir of Rev Dr Francis S Sampson 1855 , whose commentary on Hebrews he edited 1857 Life of General Thomas J Jackson 1866 A Defense of Virginia, and Through Her, of the South, in Recent and Pending Contests Against the Sectional Party 1867 , an apologia for the Confederacy.Lectures on Sacred Rhetoric 1870 Syllabus and Notes of the Course of Systematic and Polemic Theology 1871 2nd ed 1878 , later republished as Systematic Theology.Systematic Theology 1878 Sensualistic Philosophy of the Nineteenth Century Examined 1875 2nd ed 1887 Practical Philosophy 1897 Penal Character of the Atonement of Christ Discussed in the Light of Recent Popular Heresies 1898, posthumous , on the satisfaction view of the atonement.Discussions 1890 1897 , Four volumes of his shorter essays, edited by C R Vaughan.

    257 thoughts on “On Secular Education”

    1. I don't believe I disagreed with, or could have improved on a single line. I am just astonished that this has been around so long, and yet otherwise apparently sane and reasonable people still support state schools. Every parent should read this. Again.

    2. Fantastic little booklet on the inevitable self-defeating or self-deifying nature of godless education.Without a god, the State has no authority though she must teach and govern the school with authority. "Says who? What gives you the right?" Without a god, the State cannot teach toward a man's highest end though she must act like she can or else lose her reason for existence. "What can you do for me? How will I use this later?"As Dabney writes,Every line of true knowledge must find its complete [...]

    3. Terrific read. I'm thankful Douglas Wilson brought this into print. It's amazing to me that R.L. Dabney saw the danger of state-controlled education back in the 1800's, and yet so many today - even after experiencing it their whole lives - still do not understand how important distinctively Christian education is.I hope this short work gets a large audience. Highly recommended.

    4. Wow; amazing read. As an education major I can say this was so insightful against the backdrop of Dewey and his contemporaries. This quotes sums it up: “Until the magistrate can feel a love, and be nerved by it to a self-denying care and toil, equal to that of a father and a mother, he can show no reason for assuming any parental function.” The secular public school system undoubtedly sees their role as parental. Dewey, signer is the Humanist Manifesto, advocated strongly for his idea of the [...]

    5. Before schools were federalized, Dabney predicted they would become thoroughly secular and antithetical to Christianity. Well, it seems he was right. This is a great, short read, arguing that religiously neutral education is inherently hostile to religion. Education is primarily the responsibility of parents, and should only be given to others with great thought and care. Surrendering your children to secular teachers is to surrender them to anti-Christian teachers. This is an important read.

    6. Insightful. Well-reasoned. Prophetic. Dabney lays out, with remarkable clarity, the insufferable mess that government-run public education is destined to become more than one hundred and fifty years after his writing.

    7. In this short work, Dabney, with his usual sharp mind and eminently Scriptural sentiments, endeavors to show: 1. That a state church school is contrary to the true aims of both the state and the church, and that Romish abuses are justly condemned. 2. That a secular state school is an anti-Christian institution which "educates" children only to unbelief, immoral decadence, and their eventual damnation. 3. That the natural, God-ordained teaching institution is that of the parent, and that abuse he [...]

    8. Here is a short abbreviation of this book. Let the book speak for itself: "I do not place much confidence in the philosopher who pretends that the knowledge which develops the passions is an instrument for their suppression, or that where there are the most desires there is likely to be the most order, and the most abstinence in their gratification." "To educate the mind of a bad man without correcting his morals is to put a sword into the hands of a maniac." And as John Locke is quoted by Dabne [...]

    9. I found this succinct statement of what is wrong with the idea of government schooling one of the best quotes from the book: "It is not true that the civil authority is entitled to shape a people to suit itself. The opposite is true; the people should shape the civil authority."Another interesting thing is that this book contains the argument which Doug Wilson so fondly uses in all of his debates against athiests and secularists, which is that the same provides no foundation for morality: "[The [...]

    10. Dabney was an extremely insightful—indeed almost prophetic, it would seem—cultural analyst who quite accurately predicted the abysmal wreck which the then nascent system of government education would become. No doubt most of his late 19th century colleagues dismissed him as a cranky overreactionary, and the truth is that he did occasionally succumb to the caricature (at least the cranky part), although if anything his predictions were, in hindsight, quite conservative. A necessary read for a [...]

    11. Prophetic."It is a maxim in political philosophy, as in mechanics, that when an organism is applied to a function for which it was not designed, it is injured and the function is ill done. Here is a farmer who has a mill designed and well fitted to grind his meal. He resolves that it shall also thresh his sheaves. The consequence is that he has wretched threshing and a crippled mill. I repeat, God designed the State to be the organ for securing secular justice. When it turns to teaching or preac [...]

    12. This was an awesome little book. Dabney was before his time regarding education in America with statements such as this: "So the actual and consistent secularization of education should not be tolerated. But nearly all public men and preachers declare that public schools are the glory of America. They are a finality and in no event to be surrendered. We have seen that their complete secularization is logically inevitable. Christians must prepare themselves then, for the following results: All pr [...]

    13. Interesting read, he accurately predicted the complete secularisation of American government-run education - because the State was officially secular. Makes a case for parental overview of education, rather than schools run by the Church (which he considers to be a Roman Catholic idea). Biggest disagreements I had were more presuppositional than anything else - his arguments hinge upon natural law/theism and Scottish common sense realism.

    14. In his treatise against state (and church) dominion in the sphere of education, Dabney prophetically describes what would inevitably take place if educational authority would not be vested in the parents of the educated: Secular education would waste large sums of money and result in a people void of true knowledge; a people shaped by the State to suit its own machinations, rather than a just civil authority shaped by a wise and godly people as our republican fathers envisioned.

    15. Prophetic. I don't agree with it all, but I agree with a lot of it. Are we sure this wasn't written after the 1960s? Dabney's theory of church and state is interesting and not really represented by anyone today. Lots of good quote to be found here.

    16. Dabney was very insightful. If anyone asked me why I was against Public education, I would hand them this. Yet he didn't go far enough with his rejection of secularism. He needed to reject not only secular education, but also the secular state.

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